Well done Stuart Nash, I think you just persuaded me to trade in my red card (still very new) for my old green one. They had a vested interest in creating a bizarrely misinterpreted version of the “bio psycho social model” that makes it hard to prove certain illnesses are physical in nature. (see..!..easy to go down that path..eh..?..). Why not go after the 800,000 disaffected who didn’t bother to vote last time? ), http://accforum.org/forums/index.php?/topic/15264-welfare-reform-the-health-and-disability-panel-msd-the-truth-behind-the-agenda/, Yes the same reason i will be voting green and not labour. You are facing an election where there are people such as Russell Brand from FPP Britain giving people [sadly!] Labour needs to connect with the 800,000 voters who didnt bother last time, Labour needs to show that their is a true alternative & not just National lite, Labour needs to tell NZ that they will take us not in the direction that has seen the GFC, NEo-liberal inequality, and the rise of the 1%, but in a bold new direction where everyone matters, whether they are poor or rish, working or not …. Yes, it is a fair issue, but hardly ever does she comment on the extremely stringent application of “work capacity testing” by WINZ, their biased “designated doctors” (paid and “trained by MSD! Which is what the members and affiliates clearly want you to do, and what might inspire the non-voters from 2011 to vote Labour. I am a Napier voter, it has always been my intention to give Stuart my candidate vote, & the Greens my party vote…. That isn’t Cunliffe’s decision to make, imo. It isn’t easy being Green. Those people have never read the Green Party policies, but they think they know what they are talking about. It’ll be great to see by what margin that prediction of such a low vote is wrong by later this year. Labour has a very powerful story to tell, and should be telling it on its own terms. The rights of Maori and Pakeha are becoming less because the new immigrants coming into our country have exactly the same rights as people who have paid taxes for generations. There are three reasons for this: All that aside, I believe that one of the biggest losers in 2013 was Russell Norman. 15. Fair enough, I’d say, but there are others in Labour speaking out against more drilling and mining, for environmental concerns they have. The Green party received 11.1% at the last election. Labour had problems with framing issues under Goff and Shearer, but the bigger problem was that they offered voters a party that really didn’t seem to be all that different to National. Stupid!, Stupid!, Stupid! He does […]. Privacy Policy. Nobody in Labour now likes to talk about that. If such “doctor shopping” goes on too much, the doctors themselves and WINZ will catch onto this, and that is exactly where they bring in their own preferred “designated doctors”. ), or now on the outsourcing of medical and work capability assessment by WINZ. I am fine if this article you write is based on solid research that indicates there really is a problem with regard to ‘how much left’ NZ voters will accept – however my observation of the success of Mr Cunliffe’s message in the leadership campaign – leads me to get the impression that many NZers are fed up with a wishy-washy compromised left message and are more likely to get out and vote if a much more defined and clear left-wing message is sent out – and this article is not that. Try them out, this man knows language. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7Cyhq8HRVE. It is not fair to ask Gps to do this as they don’t want to cut someone off. We spend a lot of time wordsmithing our mission statements, but that doesn’t mean our audience hears our message. And is Labour as a whole listening?”. the term ‘Labour Green coalition’ does not allow this, whereas ‘Labour-led government’ does. 18. (And this message is directed at EVERY Opposition Party, by the way.). The Green Party are not a sports team wanting our team to win. Well, Stuart Nash? All rights reserved. 2018 Annual Conference Ed Slott's 2018 Action Plan - … If the Greens dropped below 5% without holding an electorate seat it would be a disaster for Labour’s aspirations, but this won’t happen (see pervious comment), but there is no way that any political party should willingly give away party votes to any political friend. The right to… (people want their rights) They only have their 14 MPs, and there are more well qualified, high calibre persons on their candidate and member lists. Thanks for stopping by, and I hope you take a look at some of my other work. “It is a fact, that the medical professional organisations, the training organisations, in Australia and the UK, have now virtually been “hijacked” by the ones of Sir Mansel Aylward, and Dr David Beaumont (who “advised” MSD and WINZ as former ATOS employee! Helen Clark of course avoided doing a deal with the Greens in 2005 instead swallowing a dead rat (festering stinking and diseased rat ) to go with the corrupt and impossible Winston…. Of course I could be wrong, but if I am then a new long term trend line will need to be constructed. You might say something that if any other athlete heard it would completely throw them off, but for that athlete it’s exactly what they need to hear. Hmmm. I am not making a comment on the independence of the special winz assessors, or even if its a good thing. 2011 11.1% So I suppose the point is that only left-wingers would vote for the Greens because they aren’t really a switched on, smart scientific party that sees the world, it’s systems and people as they really are? If good policy is well legislated, we really don’t care who does it, as long as it gets done. For example, a pay parity act would particularly help women on low incomes. So do I. I do find that threads like this become a little like Chinese whispers: in the end the debate is completely off-track from where it started. I don’t know why a Labour Party that lost its way so badly and has only accidentally taken a few quickly corrected stumbles back to its roots thinks it has the right to be so arrogant about the Greens. Thanks. If this isn’t their policy, they don’t stand a chance of getting my vote. And besides of that, we have a largely boot licking, biased, commercially dominated MSM (mainstream media) supporting all this appalling ideology, by reporting on it in a very one sided manner, or NOT AT ALL. What is your stand on Dr David Bratt, and his positions, and what he propagates and misinforms the wider medical profession, and the public with, selectively using data from questionable, not sufficiently proved “research”. Want to be a better nonprofit marketer and fundraiser? Renew, revitalize, rejuvenate, restore, rekindle, reinvent Labour should be apologising and begging for forgiveness, not doing their best to consign conscientious politicians to the dustbin of an environmental wasteland. But I suppose Stuart is always loyal to whoever is the leader of Labour. It sounds like the best thing to salvage from the wreckage of this article is the reminder that Labour needs to focus on getting as many as possible of the 800,000 MIA voters out to vote, and showing a united front with the Greens and Mana in doing so. They are comfortable in ignorance; divided one against the other, black vs. white, men vs. women, young vs. old, rich vs. poor. But for the Nats to lose in the current climate, Labour also needs to convince the public that there is a new govt in waiting that will hit the ground running. They have plenty to be attacked over. That implication, along with your ‘arbeit macht frei’ reference are both out of line.! Nothing has changed, except in the event labour can form a government they must go with the greens. Almost all Gps would provide the requested documentation. ..and are about to be flattened by it..eh..? I’ve become so used to dogmatic politicos with their feet in concrete boots of confirmation bias, that the humility and sincerity you express here really caught me by surprise. Do you know their reasons for not having done so? They want to back the winning horse, and they vote Labour as a vote against National. ..it actually is a spew of serious/creative-invective that wd take up about three lines.. ..you are the stellar example of everything that was wrong with the neo-lib clarkist-govt.. ..and the dregs of it that still cling to the party.. ..and go and join the tweedledum-party..? Kiwi Build and Kiwi Power are, in my humble opinion, good policies that reach out to those who think that the politicians down in Wellington don’t care about them. http://www.racp.org.nz/page/racp-faculties/australasian-faculty-of-occupational-and-environmental-medicine/realising-the-health-benefits-of-work/may-2010-video-presentation-professor-sir-mansel-aylward/. I actually agree with the majority of this in the sense that if Labour hasn’t the policies to implement an alternative vision, then it doesn’t deserve to lead. Luntz makes the point that one reason for this negative PR is … ..or was it when clark fretted about those ‘struggling’/’deserving’ fsmilies on seventy-grand otr so.. ..and she ws so ‘fretted’ she just had to give them a serious cash-top-up.. ..the poorest..?..nah.. Stuart, your quote would be true if your political party was a hollow, valueless void and purely a brand vehicle to get the MPs on your “team” elected. The only way you’ll get back in to power without the Greens is like Germany or Italy. I’m wondering if Hone Harawira is racist because he comes from a minority… I know lots of Chinese who don’t like Maori… It’s human nature, it’s all about being human.”. There is no clear line I can see, where Labour is going to stand on this. Nash has a point, your comments ARE hard to read Mr Ure. It puts a nagging doubt in the minds of the punters out in Voter Land just where your priorities lie. I think as Maori and Pakeha we have to start looking at our relationship because we are living in a multicultural society. With Cunliffe firing, the Labour caucus united and the growing perception that Key is only there for his rich mates, the battle for 2014 is between a Labour-led opposition and a National-Conservative coalition. It was Dr David Bratt who was appointed “Principal Health Advisor” for WINZ in 2007, under the last Labour led government. Low pay, high rent/mortgages, high power bills, the cost of cell phone calls etc, the cost of petrol, the cost of groceries, keeping your job, finding a new job, having to miss work because the kids are sick (again), finding the money for the warrant and rego, and so forth. ” To have any chance of forming a government post election, Labour, however, has to win voters from National. 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